it's if assad uses them against his own people, israel's line is if assad were to lose control or give the weapons to extremists, which raises the question, how big a presence do jihadist and those allied to al-qaeda play in the rebels who oppose and fide assad and syria? >> we support the president's red line as well. the prime minister supports the red lines in syria. the jihady presence is big and getting bigger. the longer the conflict goes, the bigger it will get. >> do you worry about the possibility of losing assad but get a situation where you have al-qaeda factions running part of syria? >> we've long advocated for bashar al-assad departure. we came to the administration years ago and said bashar al-assad is too reckless. his father was -- he was reckless but predictable. his son is reckless and irresponsible and ruthless and provided 70,000 rockets. tens of thousands of rockets to terrorists everywhere. he tried to create a military nuclear facility secretly. he had to go. he was a loose cannon through the region and danger to the entire region. if he goes now, we would view